theology in the raw

#860- An Honest and Raw Conversation with Francis Chan

We talk about his remarkable encounter with Benny Hinn, his recent thoughts on church unity, how he’s revisited his beliefs about the Eucharist, and we reflect on the pros and cons of being educated at The Master’s College (now University) and Seminary.

#860- An Honest and Raw Conversation with Francis Chan

#859- Sexual Orientation, Sexual Fluidity, and the “Born this Way” Myth: Dr. Lisa Diamond

In this podcast, we discuss why the idea that LGB people are “born that way” does not match the scientific data; instead, sexual orientation is a complex blend of nature and nurture. We then talk about the phenomenon of sexual fluidity--a topic that Lisa has become an expert on.

#859- Sexual Orientation, Sexual Fluidity, and the “Born this Way” Myth: Dr. Lisa Diamond

#858- Understanding GenZ: Grant Skeldon

Grant Skeldon is a leading expert in understanding GenZ and has spent the last several years of his life raising up and discipling GenZ leaders. In this podcast episode, Grant walks us through an indepth look at GenZ and corrects some wrong assumptions older people have about this vibrant generation.

#858- Understanding GenZ: Grant Skeldon

#857- Understanding Female Sexuality and the Rise in Teen Girls Identifying as Bisexual: Lindsey Snyder

In this podcat episode, Preston and Lindsey talk about the beautiful complexity of female sexualtiiy and why so many teen girls today identify as bisexual (as opposed to lesbian or striaght).

#857- Understanding Female Sexuality and the Rise in Teen Girls Identifying as Bisexual: Lindsey Snyder

#856- After Doubt: Questioning your Faith without Losing it: Dr. A.J. Swoboda

A. J. Swoboda is assistant professor of Bible, theology, and world Christianity at Bushnell University. He also leads a Doctor of Ministry program around the Holy Spirit and leadership at Fuller Theological Seminary. He is the author of a number of books, including the award-winning Subversive Sabbath.

#856- After Doubt: Questioning your Faith without Losing it: Dr. A.J. Swoboda

#855- Political Discipleship in a Post-Covid World: Joshua Ryan Butler

In this podcast, we banter around about all kinds of things related to politics, race, discipleship in 2021, pastoring in a post-Covid world, nationalism, partisanship, and how to deal with Christians who are heavily influenced by the partisan politics of our day.

#855- Political Discipleship in a Post-Covid World: Joshua Ryan Butler

#854- Singleness and Celibacy as Vocation: Pieter Valk

Humans can live without sex, but we can’t live without love, intimacy, and community. So where does this leave Christian who are gay, who are also pursuing celibacy as a vocation? Pieter Valk helps us think through this question on a rich, theological, and practical level.

#854- Singleness and Celibacy as Vocation: Pieter Valk

#853- Rethinking the War on Drugs: Christina Dent

Illegal drugs should be criminalized. Period. The harsher a society is on drug use and drug dealing, the fewer problems it will have. Right? Not necessarily. As long as there are buyers, there will be producers. And as long as people experience pain and trauma, they will seek ways to numb it.

#853- Rethinking the War on Drugs: Christina Dent

#852 - Have We Neglected the Ascension of Christ? Dr. Patrick Schreiner

Oftentimes, we don’t know what to do with the ascension. I mean, we believe in it, but we don’t often appreciate the theological necessity of it. Get your Bible’s out for this episode, because Patrick and I dance through various passages of Scripture to reconstruct the lost doctrine of the ascension of Christ.

#852 - Have We Neglected the Ascension of Christ? Dr. Patrick Schreiner

#851- Disagreeing without Dividing the Church: Dr. Tim Muehlhoff

Is it possible for Christians to maintain unity when they are so divided over hot-button issues like politics, race, and points of doctrine? Do you have to sacrifice conviction for the sake of unity? Is it possible for a zealous Trump-supporter and an ardent Biden-supporter to worship together in the same church without thinking the other person is evil? There is no better person to help us navigate these issues than Dr. Tim Muehlhoff.

#851- Disagreeing without Dividing the Church: Dr. Tim Muehlhoff

#850- Should Christians Care for the Environment? Dr. Sandy Richter

Dr. Sandy Richter is one of my favorite--and one of the most provocative--biblical scholars, and she comes back on Theology in the Raw for the second time in 10 months to help us think through this important question: should Christian care for the environment?

The answer, of course--if you read the Bible--is yes. But why are so many Christians resistant to this question? (Pssst...it’s because we’re often shaped more by American political tribal identities than the actual Bible.) We also wrestle with questions like: What age will we be in the resurrection? Will animals be resurrected in the new creation? And why won’t there be marriage in the resurrection?

#850- Should Christians Care for the Environment? Dr. Sandy Richter

#849 - How the Humanity of Jesus Redeems our Pain: Kurt Willems

Kurt is the author of the brand new book: Echoing Hope: How the Humanity of Jesus Redeems Our Pain And his forms the bulk of our discussion. Do we believe Jesus was really human? Do we overemphasize his deity and therefore lose out on embracing the beauty of his humanity? When did Jesus realize he was God? Do his miracles prove his divinity or show that he was empowered by the Spirit?

#849 - How the Humanity of Jesus Redeems our Pain: Kurt Willems

#848 - Never Retire: Living Your Whole Life for Jesus: Clare De Graaf

Clare De Graaf is a cancer survivor, sort of “retired” businessman, a friend, a mentor, the chairman of the board for The Center for Faith, Sexuality & Gender, founder of many Christian non-profit ministries, and one of the most zealous, faithful, wise Christian leaders I’ve ever met. In this conversation, Clare talks about his journey in the faith--which involves many twists and turns, ups and downs--and his contagious outlook on the kingdom of God.

#848 - Never Retire: Living Your Whole Life for Jesus: Clare De Graaf

#847 - Multiethnicity in the Church: An Optional Possibility or Gospel-Necessity? Dr. Derwin Gray

As the title suggests, this episode is all about the question of multi-ethnicity in the body of Christ. And Dr. Gray is the right person to challenge us in this conversation. Dr. Derwin L. Gray is the founding and lead pastor of Transformation Church, one of the largest multiethnic, multigenerational, mission-shaped communities in the U.S., located in Indian Land, South Carolina, just south of Charlotte, North Carolina.

#847 - Multiethnicity in the Church: An Optional Possibility or Gospel-Necessity? Dr. Derwin Gray

#846 - Purposeful Sexuality: Ed Shaw

Ed is attracted to the same-sex and has committed his life to celibacy and the ministry of the gospel. In this episode, we talk about his journey as an SSA Christian man and minister and about the themes unpacked in his latest book Purposeful Sexuality.

#846 - Purposeful Sexuality: Ed Shaw

#846 - The Gospel as Political Protest and Why Rom 7 Isn’t Talking About Christians: Dr. Joey Dodson

We discuss three issues in this podcast: (1) Imperial critical readings of the New Testament (i.e. how the NT critiques the Roman empire in its language), (2) the benefit of studying first-century philosophy for understanding the New Testament, and (3) why Romans 7:9-25 is not talking about a Christian or Christians.

#846 - The Gospel as Political Protest and Why Rom 7 Isn’t Talking About Christians: Dr. Joey Dodson

#845 - Behind the Scene of Christian Publishing: Don Pape

Don and I talk about what it takes to be a successful writer, the pros and cons of Christian publishing, the role that having a platform plays in landing a book deal, what to do if you feel called to write a book, the kind of financial advances that new authors should expect, and many other things related to the industry.

#845 - Behind the Scene of Christian Publishing: Don Pape

#844 - Race, CRT, the gospel, social justice, evangelicalism, systemic racism: Thabiti Anyabwile

The last couple of years has kicked up a lot of dust regarding race relations in America and in the church, but why did it take so long? Thabiti, or “Pastor T,” helps us understand some of the concerns and frustrations that black people have had about how white people (progressives and conservatives) have gone about the race conversation. Pastor T helps us understand what Critical Race Theory is, the real meaning of systemic racism, why issues of justice are not subsidiary to the gospel, and how the church can have better conversations about race.

#844 - Race, CRT, the gospel, social justice, evangelicalism, systemic racism: Thabiti Anyabwile

#843 - The Business of War: Justin Bronson Barringer

Justin Bronson Barringer is a pastor, consultant, writer, editor, and a PhD candidate in religious ethics at Southern Methodist University. He’s also a star in the hit reality show Duck Dynasty. (Just kidding.) I met Justin many years ago when he agreed to read (and critique!) early drafts of my book Fight, now called Nonviolence: The Revolutionary Way of Jesus. He was very influential in helping me understand Christian nonviolence and the ethical challenges it presents. In this episode, we talk about his new book that he edited: The Business of War: Theological and Ethical Reflections on the Military-Industrial Complex​. Once we understand how profitable war can be, it sort of changes your view on the whole military industrial complex.

#843 - The Business of War: Justin Bronson Barringer

#842 - The Book of Revelation as Apocalyptic Political Protest: Dr. Dan Morrison

While many Christians read the book of Revelation as mostly about future events, it’s best understood as a piece of political protest. John is writing to confront Chrisitan Nationalism--in a first-century sort of way. There’s no better person to help us read Revelation in this way than Dr. Dan Morrison. Dan is assistant professor of New Testament at George Fox University and he wrote his doctoral dissertation on Revelation. It’s called: “Apocalypse as Protest: Reading Revelation from Places of Poverty, Privilege, Power, and Persecution

#842 - The Book of Revelation as Apocalyptic Political Protest: Dr. Dan Morrison

#841 - A Prophetic Response to 2020: Jon Tyson

In this episode, I wanted Jon to give a prophetic perspective on 2020. How should we think about this crazy year? What should we learn from it? How should we look forward in 2021 and beyond? What should the church keep doing after Covid, and what should the church leave behind? Oh, and we also discuss the roots and symptoms of Trumpism and I actually say “you are Trump; we are Trump.”

#841 - A Prophetic Response to 2020: Jon Tyson

Diversity of Trans* Part 6: An Endocrinologist’s Perspective on Puberty Blockers and Cross Sex Hormones: Dr. Paul Hruz

Dr. Hruz has also become an expert in the discussion currounding puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and trans* teenagers seeking transition. This is what we focused on in our discussion. We looked at the health risks and benefits of blockers and cross sex hormones and some of the ideology surrounding the discussion.

Diversity of Trans* Part 6: An Endocrinologist’s Perspective on Puberty Blockers and Cross Sex Hormones: Dr. Paul Hruz

Diversity of Trans* Part 5: A Christian’s Journey from Male to Female: Addie

Addie was raised in a conservative Christian home and has always had a strong faith in Jesus. Addie also has experienced severe gender dysphoria from a young age, and after much prayer, study, and seeking counsel, she decided to transition from male to female toward the end of college.


Add is very happy with her decision, believes it was the right thing for her to do, and still has a robust faith in Jesus. Addie is still theologically and politically conservative, so she doesn’t fit neatly into the categories that people often have of trans* people.

Diversity of Trans* Part 5: A Christian’s Journey from Male to Female: Addie

Diversity of Trans* Part 4: Detransition and Gender Ideology: Helena Kerschner

Helena is one of many females who have experienced “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” where gender dysphoria seems to come out of nowhere and is allegedly brought on, in part, through social contagion. Helena talks honestly and opening about her journey where, as a teenager, she used to identify as trans* but later renounced that identity and detransitioned back to her biological sex as female. Helena believes she was brainwashed into this identity through various online social media sites such as Tumblr and Reddit.

Diversity of Trans* Part 4: Detransition and Gender Ideology: Helena Kerschner